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There is an awful lot of talk about lists

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It seems there is a lot of talk about lists and domain blogs lately. Shane Cultra included a little piece about it in a well written article that had to do with another topic. In the post he expressed that he was not sure who voted on the award and handed it to the site that was making the claim.

Then of course it was a joke, maybe, maybe not. I have found a lot of times in this industry more than most that people make claims then when someone questions it like Shane did, it was a joke. Again let me make clear I don’t know if it was a joke or not and will take the person at their word.

So then Elliot has put up a post with a poll that was going to be a neutral playing field. That vote has been tight back and forth between Shane and Bill from AvailableDomainNames.com. It is interesting that the choice of none has gotten 25 votes which probably is the camp that don’t like these lists.

There is a thread at Namepros that I started to get the crowd over there to give their opinion. So far that thread does not have a big enough sample size with only 7 votes and 5 are for indifferent. Those who commented in the thread did say they appreciate the lists.

OnlineDomain.com weighed in with a post about why he is not doing lists and one of the comments there pointed out that no one does this except for money. I am pretty sure that is the reason why most domain bloggers blog. I don’t think anyone who is in the top 10 or 15 traffic wise has ever implied differently. I have read Elliot say on more than one occasion to a commenter that he blogs to make money and if not for his advertisers he probably would not be blogging.

RobbiesBlog.com made a post tonight as well with his first effort into domain lists. Good for him. Obviously like any other business if people see people making money they want to get in on that. That is kind of how domaining started right ? There were plenty of people who never thought of regging domains for resale that were reading stories in DN Journal and wanted in.

We publish lists not as often as I would like and the person who has done them has other things going on and I may bring someone else on.

What makes a good list is the question I always wonder ? I try to look at it from two sides, from an affiliate standpoint you want someone clicking a link on your blog that will be for a big number. Within the first two weeks of joining NameJet Affiliate program we had two $90 plus commissions, so those were names that went in the $900 range. It would be great to have the buyer of social.org buy through your link obviously.

On the flipside, I think about the domainers who cannot afford to get into auction battles with Berkens or Schilling. The names with no bids that if someone likes because of our research may get picked up for one big $69, $6.90 to the publisher. That’s great too, I want people to have found value in the pick and get a name they can make money with. Most small domainers cannot spend $3000 on an auction, and sometimes the person who does spend that much may have become the end user without knowing it. The name is fully priced.

So if you like lists and I know some don’t, what do you like to see ? Under the radar picks or the mid tier where there is 10 to 20 bidders but not 100 bidders and a pre auction bid of $1000 ?

Comments

  1. Of course its about money, what should it be for ? Are these domainers reading domain blogs giving their domain sales to charity ?

  2. Elliot Silver makes a lot of money flipping domains, of course he is only going to blog if its worth his time. That is common sense for a 14 year old.

  3. The only ones who will say they are not in it for the money are the ones who can’t get any advertisers anyway.
    Its like the old, I am faithful to my wife.
    There is a difference in being faithful and not being able to get laid anywhere else.

  4. For the most part the lists are common sense. Thank you domain bloggers for pointing out an LLL.com on Namejet and letting me know that’s a good name. I did not know that. WTF !!!!!
    Bill Eisenmann is the best and TNT names I am not sure where they made that claim they are not even good imo.
    Shane does a pretty nice job, but look all these lists drive up prices. That’s business but don’t act like you are doing a service, any domainer can search the first two pages of name jet and go daddy.

  6. Let’s be real, there are way too many domain blogs. First off someone should tell bloggers that we also get the Google.
    The fact that Mike Berkens or Andrew Alleman read an article on Google by searching domain names and clicking news and then copying and pasting a portion of it with a link to the rest of the story is of no value.
    The lists are a joke done for nothing more than affiliate commission.
    We all have rss readers, I don’t need to read about tech crunch on the domains or elliotsblog, I already read it.
    The domain industry is so far behind in innovation its a joke. Get something interesting to write about.
    At least Morgan Linton and Shane Cultra put something personal into it. The rest is just a joke.

  8. I don’t write much on domains as I focus more on affiliate marketing, but I don’t understand why people get so worked up. If someone wants to write a blog let them write a blog. If you don’t like it then don’t visit it. Do people have nothing better to do than criticize and put others down? What is pathetic is not the people trying to make a buck, it is the babies who are crying about it. I give credit to anyone who spends their time trying to generate additional revenue whereas the people who spend their time knocking them are the jokes.

  9. @Konstaninos What does Elliot making lists have to do with anything. I was pointing out that one commenter made the point that people are blogging for money.
    @anticareer I agree with you 100 %

  10. I am with Aussie most blogs suck. The new blogs are just complete clones of existing bloggers. Who are these people and what have they done in domaining to be worthy of anyone’s time ?
    Its good for Francois what does it cost now to be on the feed $500 ?

  11. Who cares who writes lists and someone writing a blog post about why they don’t ?
    I have never even heard of the author of online domain. Who cares why you don’t write lists.
    I agree for a boring industry there are too many blogs and if advertisers stopped advertising there would be Ricksblog. Rick doesn’t need the advertising, neither does Berkens but he takes it, and good for him.
    Domaining is on the way down, be a business owner. Create something and no your minisite optimized for SEO is not creative.

  12. I am not if full agreement with Get A clue but some of these people I have never heard of. They blog about mundane things or copy the top guys.

  13. Todd, you’re always a bowl of cheerfulness. not! You consistently knock domaining as on the ‘ way down’, but can’t wait to jump into a ‘domaining’ blog day after day to offer your critiques. Interesting that one down on the industry, loves to keep reading thru and commenting on all the blogs on it . Must not be a ‘busy’ businessman yourself.

  14. I have been reading the thread over at Namepros is that dvdrip guy thick or what?
    I read DomainShane everyday he has never said the lists are the greatest, they are some of his personal picks.

  15. @ Too Funny
    First of all the Todd who commented earlier is not me. There is more than one Todd commenting on the blogs and I am sure Hybrid Domainer can tell you by checking his records but regardless it really doesn’t matter because a lot of what the other Todd says is true. Go figure, someone with my same name thinks a lot like me. LOL
    I do offer my critiques because without critiques these blogs you read everyday would not exist. So yes I am guilty of giving my opinion thats for sure but the problem is people don’t like to always here things that they don’t like. So if I am guilty of opinions so be it, grow a backbone and stop smiling so much and talk truth brother. Honestly I have been giving my opinion for a long time but you are the first person to say something. I bet you own a blog!! LMAO

  17. Todd you are not saying anything worthwhile. You are a nobody, without your resume and accomplishments why would anyone care what you say ? You are not showing facts, you could be in a basement somewhere.
    And yes you got blasted on Elliots blog so others have said something about your comments.
    Tell us who you are, show us a website big guy.

  18. @Rex said
    And yes you got blasted on Elliots blog so others have said something about your comments.
    Never saw that and would love to see it if you can point me in the right direction and no I do not have a website, have never had a website, or every claimed to have a website, or have ever commented about a website so who are you Fido, sorry Rex.
    Don’t forget show me the blasting from Elliots blog!

  19. Todd,
    You have to be kidding. Half my list have no bids, I sell 10 names a month and 6 make it to my list. It takes me an hour and a half to make my list each night. My wife will verify this as she gets mad I sit through dinner and the evening working on it. Not saying that every day it shows my effort but you aren’t close to correct.
    That was from Shane Cultra http://www.elliotsblog.com/what-domain-blog-has-the-best-lists-8667
    Again no bio, so your opinion means what ? People reading your comments don’t know if you are 16 or 56 ? Yet you are keeping it real ? Blogs would exist without your critiques as you are nobody. A smart blogger would just not post your rambling.
    Yes Todd, I will have fries with that and super size it.

  20. So you are talking about what Shane said. Its funny everything I said has more likes than dislikes and everything Shane said has more dislikes than likes. Funny!! my favorite one is when Spike said “Shane rocks”
    Dislikes 14
    Likes 3
    LOL!!!

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