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There Hasn’t Been A Popcorn Thread Like This In A Long Time

October 23, 2014 by Raymond Hackney

When dealing with aftermarket sites, you have to read the TOS, when running an aftermarket site you need to write a proper TOS. Well it looks like we got a doosey over at Namepros.

It starts out with the owner of Brand Root warning members about a problem with a member, VentureFile.com

Michael posted the details which are important for those dealing with sites like Brand Root and Brand Bucket that ask for exclusivity.

In short the details are as follows:

4/08/2014 – Dejan creates a Brandroot account
5/09/2014 – Wuvo.com is accepted and listed for sale at a price of $6750
09/29/2014 – Dejan requests that Wuvo.com be removed from Brandroot because “The name was accepted to an auction event.”
10/14/2014 – Brandroot receives a $3,000 offer for wuvo.com
10/14/2104 – Dejan rejects and reminds us that he removed his name

We then remind him of his contractual obligation of keeping Wuvo exclusive to Brandroot for a period of 30 days following the request of removal.

10/15/2014 – In the interested buyer impatience he raises his offer to $4500.

Dejan is intrigued and writes, “Thank you for the update. That is a decent offer and I will seriously consider it.” For several days Dejan is unresponsive, ignoring several of our emails.

10/22/2014 – In a matter of minutes of informing Dejan that he is no longer welcome to sell at Brandroot and that Wuvo.com will be removed, Wuvo.com sells at full price for $6750.

10/22/214 – Dejan decides that he does not want to sell Wuvo at Brandroot and that my email stating that his name was removed ended his contractual obligation with Brandroot (which the email in no way stated).

Our financial loss due to Dejan’s unprofessionalism is not the concern. Brandroot is now left with one very unhappy customer threatening us with litigation. We have informed Dejan that we will stop at nothing, “making this venture of [his] a lot more expensive and stressful than [he] thought possible.”

You’ve been warned. Dejan Lesicar is very capable of leaving you in one sticky situation if you enter into business with him.

VentureFile.com responded:

 I received the email from Michael of the removal at 11:41 and the next email came at 15:21 almost 4 hours later. So it wasn’t minutes..

Also, Michael stated that it was removed, not that it will be removed (a big difference). Here are his exact words: “The buyer has purchased another name. And Wuvo has been removed. You are not welcome back at Brandroot.” If it was removed how can someone bid on it?

Btw, Michael also notified me that “You’ve got another think coming. ;)” (his exact words) and that he also purchased my name .com. And also in his words: “Trust me, I am going to make this venture of yours a lot more expensive and stressful than you thought possible.”

That is all that I will post in this thread. My Itrader is clean and I did many deals with many people on this forum and I don’t plan on doing anything differently in the future.

From there it was on, many members did not like the airing of dirty laundry in public and Biggie brought up a very good point for all to ponder.

smart folks should carefully read what the “site editor” can do and what “brandbucket” can do and what the domain owner can and cannot do.

I count 3 parties, but 1 of them has very limited rights.

in any offering situation, who should have most rights over the property, the person who owns the name and pays the renewal fee’s or the platform it’s listed on?

imo….

Brand Root’s got a little miffed at some posters and called the members of Namepros “Nancys”

I didn’t expect anything less from the Nancy’s at NamePros. The overall sentiment is for this swindling domain owner Dejan, which was very much expected at this forum, and not for the individual who put out almost 7k for a domain and now has lost any chance of getting it.

Now apparently the buyer of Wuvo.com on Brand Root had immediately started the TM process.

You can read it all on Namepros, get some popcorn and your favorite beverage, there is some valid points made about the things you agree to when you join a site, and understand that there are a lot of potential ramifications if there is a falling out or even just a disagreement on interpretation of certain selling rules.

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About Raymond Hackney

Raymond Hackney has been involved with domain names since 1997. One of the most prolific writers in the domain industry and founder of TLDinvestors.com and 3Character.com

Comments

  1. Jason says

    October 23, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    That was a fun read. How did the buyer start the ip process do fast ?

  2. Eric Borgos says

    October 23, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    I think the most important lesson from all of this is…that nobody has registered the domain PopcornThreads.com yet. You could easily use it to build a site that links to forum threads or blog postings that have a lot of arguing going on.

    • Sameh says

      November 2, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      Someone registered the domain the next day of your comment! 🙂

  3. SpamAndScam says

    October 24, 2014 at 4:04 am

    I have so much fun today, especially when someone discovered the ‘i love myself’ video and posted it, it was taken off youtube within minutes of being uncovered, i would like to thank Rader for all the fun and hope he has learnt something from all this. I did post his comments will stay on the internet ……forever

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